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Delayed races, returning cars

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Probably beating a dead horse at this stage but David if you're listening. Can you please send back my May and June entries along with my two funny cars and my Chargers. My May entry in particular was a Way Too Fast with FTE wheels. They go anywhere from 15-25 dollars on EBay and it's my only podium of the year. I had plans to send it to D64 and now that time has passed but I'd really like it back. There are no hard feelings. I've paid 15-20 dollars in shipping. You can send all 6 cars back at once and it can easily be done for 8-10 bucks. Keep the extra money I'm not worried about that.

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redlinederby 11/7/20
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As somewhat of a last ditch effort, I mailed David directly and asked if he would just send me all the entry cars he has and then I would send them back to all the individuals. I don't know if he'll take me up on that offer but I'm willing to manage that if it helps get our cars back (he has my cars too).

If this happens, I'll post and we'll all figure out some system so people can get their cars back.


  • The only issue I have is he has a large package for me — NDeavers80
  • You would need the entry forms as well so people could prove what cars are whose. Could be a cluster.... without them. — MikeDoolzinski
  • Good effort though. — MikeDoolzinski
  • Thanks. We could figure out a system for claiming cars, it wouldn't be very efficient but at least we'd all have a better chance of getting our stuff back. We'll see what he does — redlinederby
  • Let's hope this works, there is only 1 car I want back, the others not a worry though they still are mine and paid the return shipping. — Mayfield41
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NDeavers80 11/7/20

so david has been posting about his new car on Facebook so I added a link 

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redlinederby 11/7/20
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For what it's worth, his response to my offer to handle shipping...we'll see...

We've actually got over half packed up and ready to ship out...everything will be shipped out next week.

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Team164Bruno 11/10/20

Thanks for following up with this Brian. LIke others I've been patient hoping that something would happen but that's wearing thin. I sent him a pair of older McDonalds bubble tops for one of his races along with the return shipping fee, so I'd really like to see them back - Bruno 

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Rusty 11/16/20

This is a shame.Did any of you folks get your money /cars back?


  • I haven't gotten or heard anything yet. Really bummed. — redlinederby
  • None that I heard. — MikeDoolzinski
  • Same. Nada — NDeavers80
  • No. Feels like theft. — Team164Bruno
  • I haven’t — BlueLineRacing
  • Since the cars are modified, and therefore have a value, and many paid for returns, I'm wondering if, because it is through the mail, this constitutes some kind of wire fraud that the USPS or FTC might be interested in. Any legal minds out there? — Peter_Bee
  • When you think about it, it does constitute mail fraud. But most people never regain the money or property that was put into the situation. — MikeDoolzinski
  • It actually just becomes about punishing the individual. Most of the people that were swindled by Bernie Madoff, Enron, etc. never got anything. — MikeDoolzinski
  • I just pray this doesn't leave a black eye on our beloved sport. — MikeDoolzinski
  • The “punishment” here is just not feeding the bear. Don’t send him anymore or support any of his future races if there are any. — redlinederby
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Foursix 11/17/20

I can't remember if I paid to have my Charger Summer cars returned but I'd sure like them back. Let me know how much you need for shipping if not paid


  • Don't send him anything at this point. its just more he will keep — MikeDoolzinski
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NDeavers80 11/17/20

let's see

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SpyDude 11/18/20

This is really not looking good for the League of Speed ..... the lack of responsibility being shown here is shocking to say the least.  It would be different if there was at minimum some kind of message saying, "Look, got a lot of things happening, haven't had time to do the races, they're cancelled for now, sending all your cars back".... but there has not even been that.  I fully understand that things can and do happen unexpectedly, but to go totally radio silent, especially when people are constantly messaging .... this is not right.


  • The lack of communication is the core problem with all this. It’s less about the cars and more about just not knowing what’s going on. — redlinederby
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NDeavers80 11/18/20

update my cars have been shipped


  • It’s a Christmas miracle! Encouraging to say the least. Let’s hope that’s not the only PO trip he makes. — redlinederby
  • Exactly — NDeavers80
  • That looks like a Screenshot of a text message. I suppose if you the ability to blow up his phone with messages, he might pay attention. But it seems he's ignoring everyone else. — Peter_Bee
  • Its Facebook messaging — NDeavers80
  • Oh. For some reason he blocked me from his Facebook... — Peter_Bee
  • Sorry. So blow up his YouTube lol I don't know what to say he removed me from his Facebook now too — NDeavers80
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MikeDoolzinski 11/18/20

Until all the cars come home, nothing is settled! One gesture doesn't end this.


  • Exactly — NDeavers80
  • Dude. Any sign is a good sign. Now there's hope, take it. — redlinederby
  • The problem is I don’t want to have to harass someone on every social media site just to get back a few cars. I’d just like them to show up — BlueLineRacing
  • At this point he's just playing games. To pick and choose whose property to return is pretty juvenile.. — MikeDoolzinski
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NDeavers80 11/21/20

It came


  • Nothing is settled until they all come home. — MikeDoolzinski
  • Out of curiosity I left reply on his youtube comment from big Poppy's last video. let see what he says. — MikeDoolzinski
  • You could just say congrats. I know yours and a lot of others isnt settled but mine finally is and I think mine took longer than almost everyone as i just got back cars from 2 years ago. — NDeavers80
  • I'll celebrate when the last package comes home. I'm not gonna become complacent. Even if mine were appear today,I'd still be hunting this fool tomorrow. — MikeDoolzinski
  • I'm not saying to be complacent. I would tell you congrats if the roles were reversed and still be trying to hunt mine down. — NDeavers80
  • I am glad someone got something from him but all the same we still have to play games with him. — MikeDoolzinski

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