List of mail in races and tracks

WinstonGunner Friday, 6/25/2021

Is there a list of races or tracks that allow mail in cars? TIA


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Races currently taking entries will be found here: 

www.redlinederby.com/events

You can find that same info at the top of the site under "Racing"

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redlinederby 6/25/21
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Yup, that's the calendar and mail-in events should be noted. The calendar goes out 90 days but if you're looking for beyond that, there's the "See all" link on the calendar and it'll show all the events shared, future and past. www.redlinederby.com/events/all

Thanks. If I can make a suggestion, I believe the categories should be:
Leagues (3D Bot Maker) (Nascar)(Indy Car)
Tracks (Chaos Canyon) (Daytona)(Texas Motor Speedway)
Events (Trucks Vs Cars) (Daytona 500) (Indy Lights 200)
Class (Stock/Mod) (Open) (Open)

Everyone is different when deciding what is important to them. Leagues can have multiple tracks and Events can be performed on multiple tracks. Some Events also have multiple classes within the Event (stock, mod, 125cc, 250cc, etc). I believe we should be consistent.

In respect to Chaos Canyon, I think he should be calling his league Chaos Racing, as he now has 2 tracks; Chaos Canyon and his new hillclimb track.

What is everyone elses thoughts on this? 

Also I believe we need a filter for mail in vs fantasy racing.


  • I'll consider extra filtering for development down the road, but for the immediate future, the site calendar won't be getting any changes or updates, just FYI. — redlinederby

No problem. Just starting the conversation so fans can better understand how diecast racing is distributed and how to find the cars, driver, tracks, and formats they love. Right now race events are presented in a silo other than DIRS. 

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Chaos_Canyon 6/30/21

Chaos Canyon is the name for the area that houses all 5 of our current tracks - think of it as the city that they are all located in, rather than a specific track.

We also run the DIRS which is the Diecast international Race Series (if you haven't heard of it), that this year has 8 tracks in two different countries, not just a track/s that we run.

Every event we run tends to be different and we rarely run a mail in event. The Rally that we are into now (running across all five of our tracks) is a mix of mail ins and rent a rides, the Outlaws street racing is mail ins then pretty much everything else we run solely on our channel is/was our own cars for now but we will have some other mail ins as well, but every track is different, every track has their own style and how they want to run it. Even down to points scoring and number of cars racing. We are one of the few that I've seen run 6 and 8 cars at a time in tournaments, mostly they are 2 or 4 cars at a time. Some (like Sub4RA) will run more cars again for things like NASCAR etc.

I would say as far as filters, for finding events, you don't want too many as it then makes it harder for track owners that don't fit the specificity of a particular dropdown. I would tend to keep it broader such as type (stock or modified), track type (basically open track, drag or laned and that's it), host (in case there is a particular track you're trying to find). Then once you've filtered to the type, track and host you can easily see what options there are and what the various rules are. 


  • I am confused and I have been watching you for a year now. So the track with the jump is not chaos canyon track? I know you have the new boosted track. what is that called? This is all my point. We as a community need to standardize in order to not confuse the audience. In your case, I believe Chaos is your league, with the 2 tracks of yours I watch regualrly, and obviously the multiple events across those tracks. The DIRS is a tour series, across multiple tracks. My goal is to see diecast racing grow for eveyone but without some sort of uniformity, it just looks like a Youtube mish mash of events to the uneducated audience which does not create loyalty. People need to know who to root for (drivers, cars, builders), why to root for them, and how to root for them. But if every week there are new drivers, cars, series's, etxc, with no overall connection to the sport, the content really means nothing to the potential mass audience. People need battles, rivalries, and skills to appreciate the sport and this can only be accomplished by coordination by us promotors. I would like to keep the discussion going, but in another forum next month. I will start to communicate more as I am working on my Diecast league right now. Thanks for your input and keep the ideas flowing. — WinstonGunner
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Chaos_Canyon 6/30/21

Hey WinstonGunner,

There is the Canyon Road track, which is the track we race on mainly (with the jump), then there is the new Possum Farm Hill Climb Track, The Chaos Canyon Stadium track (that's the new head to head track also with boosters), the Rocky Road track and finally the Chaos Canyon Helix Track. As I said above, Chaos Canyon is the overall name for the region/area the tracks are in - basically instead of saying they're in Auckland, rather than a league.

As for having the same drivers to root for etc we do that via the Canyon Outlaws series. It is the same drivers/cars every fortnight and there is only a chance for those not on the list, to get on there every couple of months. The other series will vary in terms of drivers because we change it up in terms of what cars, style of tournament etc even though we have some regulars there will always be some new drivers. Everyone wants a chance to drive at the bigger tracks, so if you only ever had the same drivers and that's all, it becomes discouraging to others. We are constantly asked how people can be a driver ro send a car to the canyon but we can't accommodate everyone unfortunately.

If you think about racing in real life, there are plenty of variants of events and styles of racing and people tend to gravitate to what they want to watch. Personally, we make what we enjoy watching and that's the main driver behind it, and we hope people get a kick out of it as well. If I could work out a way to make a proper diecast mud bogging track I'd be doing one of those too but there are some things that just get too hard. 

The DIRS this year, is probably a bit too big, with 8 months of solid racing. Some viewers have followed all the racing, but based on the view counts at each track it's probably too long of a series for people to keep up with. Honestly, viewers seem to los interest when things go over about a month, which is why we switch things up. In saying that, my rally is going to take 10 weeks as the two groups go over 5 diferent tracks, and I'm using that as a test. But likely will keep future events to the normal approx 4 weeks of racing.


  • K. I agree. But as a motorsports fan and a hockey fan myself here in canada, we like the nightly battles in hockey or the weekend battles in nascar. Over time, we are fed the overall stats (like the fedex cup) but the thrills are in the weekend battles. If my favorite team or driver starts to do well in the overall points battle, that is just the bonus. I honestly do not watch DIRS because there is no connection for me and its too much of a commitment. And its spragmatic and no vested interest in the drivers and their battles, i just dont watch. I watch your canyon races as they are on regularly, and i feel the connection you bring between the drivers and cars to the audience makes me want to see how they do. Just putting a random car and driver down the track who i will never see again or if its and effort to find out when and where they are racing again will cause the audience to tune out. I agree it cant be the same drivers and cars every week but it need to be the core drivers and cars with a balance of hungry competitors that want to kick their asses and rise to the top. That is the feeling I as an audience must feel on every episode in order to remain loyal to a production, series, league etc. Again back to my original point, coordination among the leagues in respect to marketing and racing is key to overall success. With millions of children and adults as lovers of diecast cars, this type of racing should be getting more views than it is. The Diecast World Series (which is me btw), will be starting three podcasts. 1 for my league, one for the audience, and hopefully 1 for us, the leagues. I almost have the one done for the audience. It is completely different than your weekly report which I love as it keeps me in the loop of the entire availability of tracks. When I get closer next week, I would like to do a private podcast with as many leagues that want to discuss a big picture plan. I am just planting seeds to see us all geting 1+ million views a week instead of most leagues being sub 10k which again is good but can be so much greater if we work together just a little bit for the benefit of the audience which in turn benefits the leagues. Thanks for listening and hopefully we can have this discussion in more a forum setting on a private podcast in the next few weeks. If anyone want to reach out to me personally, I can be reached at winstongunner@diecastworldseries.com . Thanks again. — WinstonGunner
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